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June 19, 2009 10:18 AM PDT

Buy an iPhone? No thanks, I'm going Nokia

by Marguerite Reardon
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NEW YORK--Collins Osei, who had bought an iPhone 3G last year, came to the AT&T store Friday not to buy the latest-generation iPhone 3G S, but instead he wanted to downgrade to a less expensive Nokia phone.

Nokia 2600

(Credit: CBS Interactive)

Osei said his decision to go back to a basic-feature phone was all about cost. The iPhone and its service plan are simply too expensive, he said. Osei, who is in the middle of his two-year contract with AT&T, had his iPhone 3G stolen recently. But he said replacing it with a new one would cost too much. Instead, he picked up a Nokia 2600 for a mere $43.

But Osei's decision didn't hinge just on the upfront cost of the phone. He also said he was tired of paying the additional $30 a month data charge that is mandatory with the iPhone.

"The iPhone plan was just too expensive," he said. "They made me pay $30 extra a month for data, and I don't really need the Internet on my phone. So I went back to a regular phone. And now I'm on a plan that costs $39.99 a month."

Osei might not be the only consumer out there turned off by the high cost of the iPhone service fee. Unlike previous iPhone launch days, there was no line of people this morning waiting outside the AT&T Time Square store hoping to get the latest iPhone 3G S. In fact, it looked like more customers were leaving the store empty-handed or with other devices than those leaving with new iPhones.

The reason for this might be that the new-generation iPhone is only an incremental advance in terms of hardware over last year's model. The two main highlights of the new phone are its faster speed and larger memory. Or perhaps more consumers had their new iPhones shipped directly to their homes.

But the sparse crowds at the AT&T store might also have something to do with the slumping economy. With the national unemployment rate over 9 percent, some consumers are reconsidering buying expensive smartphones and pricey service plans. AT&T and Apple have worked hard to bring the entry cost of the iPhone down to an affordable level. The new iPhone 3G S starts at $199 with a two-year contract, and last year's 8GB iPhone 3G has been reduced to just $99. But customers are required to sign two-year contracts for these phones, which at a minimum will cost them $1,680 over the life of their service contracts.

Peter Pham, CEO of Billshrink.com, a Web site that helps consumers cut waste out of their monthly bills said that it sometimes takes consumers a little while before they realize the full impact of the service fees on their wallets.

"Most people don't realize how much they are paying for their service until they are about six to seven months into their two-year contracts," he said. "And then they start to realize that their bills are really high."

The majority of cell phone users in the U.S. don't use all the services that they pay for, Pham added. His company's Web site can analyze consumers' phone bills and help them figure the best plan for their usage patterns given where they live.

Meanwhile, smartphones, such as the iPhone, continue to sell well. Analysts are predicting a big launch weekend for the new iPhone 3G S. Apple and AT&T are expected to sell more than 500,000 units over the next few days. Apple sold out of its preorder phones well before launch day, and it looked like there were steady lines Friday morning at Apple stores throughout the country.

But as the smartphone market matures and if the economy worsens, it will be interesting to see if consumers start demanding less expensive data plans from their carriers. Or perhaps some, like Collins Osei, will simply go back to their basic cell phones.

Marguerite Reardon has been a CNET News reporter since 2004, covering cell phone services, broadband, citywide Wi-Fi, the Net neutrality debate, as well as the ongoing consolidation of the phone companies. E-mail Maggie.
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by sodapop2k9 June 19, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
He went on launch day? How smart is this person? Why not yesterday or tomorrow when he wouldn't have chance lines etc.? This article is simple an ad for Nokia.
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by ewsachse June 19, 2009 11:47 AM PDT
Just like every slobbering article about the iPhone is an ad for Apple.

Give me a break.
by make_or_break June 21, 2009 8:36 AM PDT
So it seems we have another slave to Apple trying to put his best spin on an oblivious non-event.

Apparently Mr. Osei was pretty smart, since in the article it clearly states that there was NO LINE of rabid fanboys clamoring for the latest Cupertino wonder. Perhaps all he had to do was take a good look at the world today and rightly figured that A LOT of others were thinking that they too couldn't afford running with an iPhone as well.
by sodapop2k9 June 19, 2009 10:35 AM PDT
"The iPhone plan was just too expensive," he said. "They made me pay $30 extra a month for data, and I don't really need the Internet on my phone." ***??? Why did he by the iPhone in the first place?
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by Get_a_life_Leo June 19, 2009 10:50 AM PDT
Cuz he was dumb and didn't do his homework?
Cuz he wanted to show off?
Cuz he followed the herd?
Cuz he has a small ...... and needed reassurance of his manhood?

I'd bet there are quite a few people like this and more born every minute. I wonder if he has shares in GM, Chrysler, Lehman Brothers and the Brooklyn bridge?

The iPhone is an excellent device for people who need its functionality. As a basic phone, its overkill (just like the Pre and N97 etc.).
by strykernyc June 19, 2009 11:02 AM PDT
Typical apple customer. Buying things because they look pretty in the outside.
People talk about how the iPhone is so cool and this and that, but the reality is that you can buy a less expensive phone and most important with a much less expensive plan, and still have the same or more features and freedom of choices.
Btw I had the iPhone and so did my wife but the service and plan were terrible. AT&T is catching up to T-Mobile horrible network.
iPhone 3G is such a funny name. What happened to iphone 4G? 4G is availble in multiple countries and available in many cities in the U.S.
by CrashPad63 June 19, 2009 11:48 AM PDT
@strykernyc
Agreed, too much of this keeping up with the jobses. And really the Iphone is not the phone for the average user. Just those who really 1 believe the hype of the Apple media or 2 buy whatever comes out of cupertino. Both cases are poor buying decisions.
by OS11 June 20, 2009 10:29 AM PDT
@ strykernyc

you certainly win most ignorant post of the week. apple stuff works as well as it looks... apple does an extremely good job at making every level the customer touches the exact same experience. so when you say "it looks pretty", ALSO means "it works pretty", ALSO "support is pretty", "resale value is pretty", "software is pretty", etc...

you clearly have never owned an apple product so your jealously is simply shining through... everyone agrees the iPhone, Macs and iPods are the best devices in their categories.

phone plans are the same for all smartphones, so another mistake you have in your post.

4G isn't ready yet, not even close.... so give Verizon and ATT a few years and you'll have 4G, but your comments smack of jealousy nothing more.

check out the features, no other smartphone is even close...

http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3g-s/

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by make_or_break June 21, 2009 8:48 AM PDT
How about: "because he fell for the hype".

The iPhone has been as much about image over the Apple mystique as anything that has to do with its actual functionality. The hardware these days is no more expensive than most any other smartphone when carrier subsidizing is excluded. But for any buyer who's not used to data fees inherent with smartphones, the sticker shock doesn't come until those monthly phone bills arrive.

Most people DON'T need smartphones, but it's corporations like Apple and AT&T who got out the slick adverts and in-yer-face marketing campaigns and try to convince folks that they really want them anyways. And CNET and other gadget review site are just as guilty for playing into their hands; Apple tosses a few their way and suddenly it's reported as THE KEWL, MUST HAVE DEVICE. It worked so well for them that they've now got all of their competitors trying to do the same bloody thing.
by Hokulea June 21, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
"...you clearly have never owned an apple product so your jealously is simply shining through... everyone agrees the iPhone, Macs and iPods are the best devices in their categories."

I disagree about best in category, but they certainly are the most over-hyped and most expensive.

"The iPhone is an excellent device for people who need its functionality."

Come on, like people buy the iPhone for functionality. They buy it because they believe other people will think they're cool. Poor fools.

Anyone who exhibits any kind of brand name loyalty in this day and age is in dire need of counseling. Apple is just like any other company out there. All they really want is your money. Apparently there is no shortage of fools willing to pay far too much for some piece of techno crap that will be obsolete before they finish paying for it. Of course, the Apple/Mac fanbois must tout their supposed superiority to justify overpaying for something they don't really need in the first place.
by Seaspray0 June 22, 2009 12:59 PM PDT
@hokulea. "everyone agrees the iPhone, Macs and iPods are the best devices in their categories."

Everyone does NOT agree. Post your definitive BS somewhere else.
by Hokulea June 22, 2009 1:24 PM PDT
@Seaspray0 - See above post by OS11. That's who made the claim that Apple products are best in category, not me.

Why would I spend $100 for designer jeans when I can buy Levi's or Wranglers for less than $30. Apple's products are overpriced. They are made in China using the same cheap components everyone else is using. Their products are just poodles pretending to be peacocks.
by Phoenixhawk June 19, 2009 10:48 AM PDT
I own a 3G iPhone, why did I buy it?, I wanted a touch, and after the drop it was cheaper to upgrade my AT&T cell for 200, than it was to buy the same size Touch for $330 at the time. I currently have over 6,000 rollover minutes, I text with it, and listen to mp3's thats it.

Web yea its handy to have now and again, but its too small and too slow to really use it even when your on a Wifi instead of 3G/Edge, Average App has a 24hr lifetime. the camera sucks, the OS is more prone to crashing than Windows ME.

Soon as my contract is up, I'm going back to a basic phone /w qwerty
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by OS11 June 20, 2009 10:32 AM PDT
incorrect, the iPhones doesn't crash, so right there we all know you are lying. yes, you might have an "app" that crashes every couple months, but the iPhone runs just fine, won't crash.

the iPhone has qwerty, so again you are not telling the truth... so it sounds like you don't even have an iPhone... please don't post unless you do since we can all see through it...
by paulej June 21, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
@OS11, the iPhone does too crash. Perhaps it is an application that crashed? I don't know. All I do know is that I've had to reset the iPhone on more than once. Either way, it is clear that the iPhone OS needs some work. If the OS crashed, it needs to be fixed. If it is an application that went nuts, the OS still needs to be fixed to prevent such problems.
by El_Segfaulto June 22, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
@OS11

And Macs don't crash either. Nope, they never have hard drive failures. iPhones were created by the gods in their image and every scrap of their hardware is holy and pure. Try getting off your high horse and accept the fact that not everybody is a rabid Apple lover. I prefer my G1. It's not shiny, it's not slick. But I can damn well install whatever I want on it without fear of T-Mobile randomly deciding to exclude something from the store. Plus it's a hell of a lot cheaper ($0.00) to become a developer in Android than it is to get started with the iPhone.
by Seaspray0 June 22, 2009 1:05 PM PDT
@OS11. Wrong. It has crashed (although you probably would refer to it as "locked up"). It has also "bricked". To be fair, these have all been associated with updates (I've heard of no major issues other than that).
by amccarri2 June 19, 2009 10:48 AM PDT
The iPhone is a pocket computer with a phone feature. To me, the phone feature is just an extra feature that I really don't use that much.
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by terminalblue June 19, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
have fun with your computer that you cant install any software you want. I'll stick with anything winmo. i moght not have a compass and "shazaam" program, but at least i can tether it and also have done video about three years ago.
by seven7dust June 19, 2009 11:09 AM PDT
@terminalblue
why troll on a iPhone post then
if you like WinMo , thats good for you
but some of us want phones whcih are not only ********* but have a refined UI and stable software as well
which you dont get with WinMo I'm afraid !
by slapppy June 19, 2009 11:10 AM PDT
@terminalblue

Another I can do this 3 years ago. Lets see that video and what you can do with it. Not much.
by CrashPad63 June 19, 2009 11:50 AM PDT
Poor apple fanbois cant take the **** coming back at you ever can you. Get real. Most folks do not like Apple, and the evilness of Jobs.
by ckh1272 June 19, 2009 7:15 PM PDT
"by CrashPad63 June 19, 2009 11:50 AM PDT
Poor apple fanbois cant take the **** coming back at you ever can you. Get real. Most folks do not like Apple, and the evilness of Jobs."

Then why do you people constantly read these Apple articles, just to B____ about it??
by ckh1272 June 20, 2009 1:55 AM PDT
"y terminalblue June 19, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
have fun with your computer that you cant install any software you want. I'll stick with anything winmo. i moght not have a compass and "shazaam" program, but at least i can tether it and also have done video about three years ago."

So you can install anything on WinMo?? WRONG!!!!! Apparently you can't install stability on it, since most of the ones I have seen have had that very problem. Enjoy working with that stylus (so high tech).
by Seaspray0 June 22, 2009 1:11 PM PDT
@seven7dust. "refined, intuitive, easy to use, just works". These are all subjective, and based on personal experience. Claiming that something is one of those is not worth a hill of beans. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and you don't represent anyone elses subjective eyes. Please try to avoid the company approved catch phrases.
by Seaspray0 June 22, 2009 1:14 PM PDT
@chk. "Enjoy working with that stylus (so high tech)." I like the stylus. That's like telling me to enjoy eating icecream... I will.
by Mike+1 June 19, 2009 10:49 AM PDT
seems launch day was no problem for shoppers, it seems like not many are buying into it this time, it seems he made a smart buy with nokia. i agree, no iphone for me either, save my hard earned money for much better and more needed things that are not over-hyped and over-priced.
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by kelmon June 21, 2009 3:59 AM PDT
Well, here's the thing - why queue up to buy something that you can have mailed to you? I suspect that right there is the #1 reason why the 3GS didn't see launch queues like the 3G - you didn't have to queue to get one on Day 1.
by deeplyaware June 19, 2009 10:50 AM PDT
I agree. This is the reason why I don't own an Iphone. for a decent plan, I'd have to pay $100/month. That's double what I pay now. So for now, I have a dumbphone and iPod touch.

I suggest AT&T get more down-to-earth with the prices. Or let people use only the voice plan part.
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by SteveW928 June 19, 2009 11:48 PM PDT
I totally agree.... the plan is way too much. I might also go with a dumb-phone and iPod Touch.... or maybe buy a used iPhone, get a SIM card, and just sign it up for a most basic voice plan (just have to be sure to disable data then, so they don't soak you if you accidently use it). I'm in WiFi most of the time anyway... don't really need the phone companies WAY OVERPRICED data plan.
by OS11 June 20, 2009 10:35 AM PDT
the prices for smartphones are the same no matter what the carrier, so you are confusing a regular cell phone with a smartphone. if you just want voice, get a cell phone, if you want a smartphone, you will pay about $30 extra, no mystery there.
by mjoecups--2008 June 20, 2009 5:28 PM PDT
AT&T is gouging like crazy for sure,

@os11 your statement is absurdly wrong. My wife is using the iphone on t-mobile usa and with an unlimited data plan the bill is $54 per month INCLUDING tax. Try that on AT&T...

An ala carte or lower priced data plan woud certainly make AT&T an option, which currently they are not IMO.

Amazing how many people do pay the AT&T rates.
by lazycat202 June 20, 2009 6:06 PM PDT
OS11: You're drunk again? haha funny! i can stop laughing. sorry dude!
by jeremy62788 June 19, 2009 10:50 AM PDT
Wooww, this writer is incredibly naive. The reason for a lack of a line at the times square location has to do with the added ability to preoder the phone this year. Nothing else. Early estimates already are predicting that the iphone 3Gs will outsell the opening weekend fo the iphone 3G.
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by pjhenry1216 June 19, 2009 11:02 AM PDT
umm... none of the predictions are saying that. like he said, most analysts are saying about half a million phones. that is not what i'd call outselling the original 3G which sold over twice that.

i'm dropping the iPhone once my contract is up and getting a touch. AT&T isn't worth it anymore. not supporting mms and tethering when the rest of the world was ready was the last straw. not allowing certain applications because it'd strain their network, etc. is ridiculous. expand your network, don't restrict innovation.
by Kornbeef June 19, 2009 11:24 AM PDT
Actually pjhenry, they are, do your research before arguing with someone, maybe thats too much to ask...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/06/19/att_iphone_3g_s_pre_orders_in_the_hundreds_of_thousands.html

Just one example of you being wrong, there are more if you want

And no US company is ready for those features on the mass scale of iphone users. Sorry the US isn't up to date as other small countries with small populations and less land to cover.
by SteveW928 June 19, 2009 11:53 PM PDT
pjhenry1216 might be wrong about iPhone sales, but is right about AT&T's lameness. I'm not sure what being a big country has to do with anything.
by joedauz June 19, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
LOL - another Old people story which is really a Nokia Ad - not an article. The last paragraph being the whole real story!
.this is standard news writing for Cnet and i guess CBS, Give the appearance of a blow job in the HEADLINE and give a hand shake at the end.
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by Rawnchie14 June 19, 2009 11:15 AM PDT
What, every anti-Apple article is an "Old people" article? It's one that actually has merit in this scenario - since Apple's extra costs, paired with AT&Ts shameless fees to milk their customers of a phenomenon like the iPhone, are now really getting old.

The iPhone has a new iteration every year with new features that really should have been in version 1, since the technology was available at that time. By holding back features, they're making excuses to make a brand new model of the same phone every year and saying "now with ________".

Honestly... whoever eats this crap-storm up is the fool, not the article's author.
by Mergatroid Mania June 19, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
People like you make me laugh kid. If the person in the story had decided on any other type of phone (Samsung, HTC etc) you would claim it was an ad for them. Just ebcause the phone he decided on was a Nokia....

An old people story? Real mature kid. Grow up.
by tm_anon June 20, 2009 3:16 PM PDT
The article is a joke. If it were name "man realizes he should do homework before making decision" it would make a lot more sense.

The guy in the article bought a phone with a very clear purpose and a very clear obligation to have a data plan connected to it. If he doesn't need or want the internet connection for a phone, why would he buy a phone with an obligatory data plan?

That says nothing bad about Apple or Jobs, it doesn't say anything bad about ATT either since he stuck with their service. All it says is the man is an idiot and I wouldn't trust him to make any decisions on his own. Most likely he got the cheapest plan available and will end up going over his minutes anyway.
by forever4now June 19, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
It definitely would suck, to have an expensive smartphone stolen (iPhone or otherwise). The replacement cost would, no doubt, be significantly higher than the subsidized price paid, when the initial two year contract was signed.
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by seven7dust June 19, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
which is why Apple introduced the Find my Iphone
but the catch is you need mobile me
but still it un tested at the moment, looks decent though !
by Perry_Clease June 19, 2009 11:32 AM PDT
"by seven7dust June 19, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
which is why Apple introduced the Find my Iphone
but the catch is you need mobile me
but still it un tested at the moment, looks decent though !"

My wife and I have tested it, it is more than decent. Yesterday I tracked her on the way to and from work. While it raises privacy concerns there is some real value in knowing that a loved one is on the usual route and not kidnapped or something.

There are a few things necessary other than having a MobileMe account. On the phone you need to turn on Location Services, Push, and enable Find My iPhone.; if any of those are turned off it won't work. So if someone steals the iPhone and Find My iPhone is not set up then you can not locate it or wipe it. See Ted's excellent how-to http://www.ipodobserver.com/ipo/article/find_out_about_find_my_iphone/
by CrashPad63 June 19, 2009 12:19 PM PDT
Oh my Gosh!!! this feature has been available for what 5 years now!!! You revisionists love to paint Apple as the second coming. Aint going to happen.
by seven7dust June 19, 2009 12:54 PM PDT
@crashpad
Like I've said before being first means absolutetly squat
it's doing it right that matters
was then iPhone the first phone touchscreen phone ! no
but it was the first touch phone done right !
by CrashPad63 June 20, 2009 8:02 AM PDT
Severndust, ********... Apple still only has one true hit, the Ipod and that has been surpassed by better pmp's. Get a life and get off Jobsy's lap.
by seven7dust June 20, 2009 12:17 PM PDT
yup selling 30 million units isnt a hit ! it's a revolution
Look how touchscreens suddenly became all the rage after the iPhone as introduced

all those WinMo and Nokias were supposedly the best at the time right
why the sudden change of heart, wasnt the stylus the best way to use a WinMo phone
weren't touchscreens gimmicks according to Nokia
I wonder why everybody else is trying so hard to emulate such a insignificant product !
by purpleLightning June 19, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
Maybe you don't use the "web" but considering just about every app on the iPhone has a connection to the network, the data plan is for a lot more than just standard web browsing. Want to check your email? Synch a Google calendar? Download new songs or a podcast? Get directions? Etc.

Honestly, the price you pay for data compared to how much you pay to have voice service is a steal, if you realize how much you can actually use it. I more confused about why I pay so much for the voice portion of the plan than I am about why I pay as much as I do for data.
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by SteveW928 June 19, 2009 11:59 PM PDT
That may be... but both are WAY too high. Voice (with reasonable minutes) and Data should cost like $30/mo. At least in the US, there are unlimited data plans.... in Canada, they have crazy low caps on the data and really crazy prices for data if you go over the cap. Either way, the plans are just way too much.

Also... I'm in WiFi most of the time... so don't really need the data part from the telco. I'll probably go with a cheap phone and Touch... but it would be nice to have only one unit to carry around.
by pentest June 20, 2009 4:56 PM PDT
Voice requires a decent QOS and network. Data does not. Data and texting(especially this as it costs them nothing) is a total ripoff.
by marcimpala June 19, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
I agree, most i-phone users seem unaware of service providers like T-Mobile (my provider) that offer data plans for half the AT&T rate plus, most of the data enabled phones allow you to tether off of them like a modem unlike a non-hacked i-phone. Granted, i-phones are really lovely but other phones quietly outperform them for owners who have an intensive need for data services.
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by El_Segfaulto June 22, 2009 11:08 AM PDT
I have a G1 and I do love T-Mobile. But when I visit my family on the West Coast the service gets abysmal. Even in reasonably large cities such as Reno I constantly drop calls.
by sillygoosen June 19, 2009 10:59 AM PDT
I did the same thing about 6 months ago. Except from a Blackberry down to a Nokia. For $50/month I have unlimited text/picture messages, plenty of minutes, free nights/weekends, plus got a $40 nokia music phone and put a $40 8GB miniSD card in it with music. These expensive phones are a waste of money for the average consumer who aren't using it for business. Why do we need to be connected to the internet CONSTANTLY? That's my opinion anyway. I'll use my computer for internet, my phone for phone and music and save a lot of money.
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by Sausagebiscuit June 19, 2009 11:44 AM PDT
Good move, but you paid $40 for an 8GB miniSD ( I think you mean MicroSDHC?) card? They are $20 or less on newegg. Or did you mean that the card had $40 worth of music on it already?
by patmandu2 June 19, 2009 11:00 AM PDT
Wah, Wah. . .

Nice article. Provocative headline gets you hits.

But it doesn't represent the general trend in the market. With incremental feature improvements and strides in performance, the iPhone crushes the competition and is the future of computing (note: I meant computing, not just phones). That said, there are people that want just a phone and they can get just a phone. But they are becoming more the fringe and the mass market is adopting the full featured communication devices.

Nokia is a good company. They know how to scale hardware. But they have a long way to go with software to maintain their position.
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by Mergatroid Mania June 19, 2009 11:22 AM PDT
I think you have a little brown on your lip there, must be from kissing Apple's A$$.

A PDA (and yes, the IPhone is a PDA with a built in phone) will never "be the future of computing". Don't be stupid.
by Mergatroid Mania June 19, 2009 11:38 AM PDT
You're right Everlovin G, what was I thinking.
by SteveW928 June 20, 2009 12:02 AM PDT
@ Mergatroid Mania -

I don't think they are the future of computing... but it is quite handy to have this capability along with me on trips and not have to lug the laptop along. The iPhone (or iPod Touch) can do like 95% of what I'd typically need a laptop for when traveling.
by C0mmanderB0nd June 19, 2009 11:01 AM PDT
If everything were basic we wouldn't need to read about it here right?

There would be no innovation, change, or progress.

I am sure C Osei is happy calling movie phone on his basic nokia to find out show times when he is out and wants to catch a flick,

or maybe he can phone a friend when he is lost and can't find the office he needs to be at for an interview for a better job so he could pay for things like data service....

Sure the iphone probably isn't for everyone, I am sure if you never leave the house or live under a rock a regular mobile phone suits you just fine. I personally find the iphone replaces most of my basic computer needs and makes life a lot easier, is $30 a month a premium, probably, but then again how many people complaining about that are paying close to $100 month for satellite or cable tv?????
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by Steve3003 June 19, 2009 11:02 AM PDT
I don't need a riding lawn mower so I probably will get a regular mower from sears. What a dumb article. If you want to point out that not everyone needs or should buy a data service, write an article about that. Don't make it about an iPhone which is all about connecting to data. I guess you may have a rotary phone in your house too.
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by tm_anon June 20, 2009 3:22 PM PDT
nah, rotary costs too much. I just yell and hope they hear me.
by deftdrummer June 19, 2009 11:03 AM PDT
I actually was so enticed to cancel my AT&T service the day iphone 3.0 came out. With push notifications and wifi I should be able to get most anything done that I have in the past, with the exception of on the road GPS and on-the-road phone calls. Both of these things I can live without, especially when considering what I now pay for Skype unlimited - a mere $4 a month.
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by raffr June 19, 2009 11:04 AM PDT
The plan cost is a main reason I did not get a phone. I got a Ipod Touch instead. I also don't need the internet 24/7. I just need to make calls and send texts. I have a 2 year old Razr with Sprint and my bill is under $40. No I won't be getting the Pre either.
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by SteveW928 June 20, 2009 12:06 AM PDT
I think this is the direction I'm headed as well, unless I can sign up a used iPhone to a most basic voice plan.
by tcmacdude June 19, 2009 11:04 AM PDT
If you don't need internet (3G) then fine. Otherwise there is no specific "high cost ... iPhone service fee". Doesn't AT&T charge the $30 data fee for all smartphones?
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by OS11 June 20, 2009 10:46 AM PDT
yes, all carriers charge around $30 for data... it's just educating the public which is hard... many still think a cell phone is the same as a smart phone... nope! a smartphone like the iphone allows you to get mail, gps, music, tv, surf the web, take and post movies and photos right from your phone, etc, etc, etc...

yes, $30 is high, but that's because the cell data network is very poor... once everyone is on WiFI or WiMAX full time, there will be no need for the cell carriers.
by Captain-Atari June 21, 2009 8:33 PM PDT
I bought a Palm Treo 650 in 2005 from Cingular right before AT&T took over. I bought the device outright and got a regular voice plan. Didn't buy DATA at all. I've used the web feature maybe twice. Glad I didn't buy the data plan. The 650 was purposely crippled from using any of Palms WIFI addon cards I'm sure the cell phone carriers were behind that but subsequent phones did finally ship with intergrated wifi and I'm sure thats where this mandatory data plan BS came from. Thats the main reason I won't consider an iPhone now or any smart phone that requires me to sign up for a data plan that I won't use most of the time. There are plenty of WIFI hot spots where I live and work. Forget $400 smartphones when I can get netbooks with intergrated wi-fi that I can keep in the car and use at any Dunkin Donuts or other free Hotspot.
by pjhenry1216 June 19, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
I was hoping maybe this article would have been how people aren't putting up with AT&T anymore for the iPhone. The iPhone is great, but AT&T is really hurting it. No MMS? No tethering? The rest of the world was able to do it. Is it because they want to charge more? or is it because they're afraid their networks can't handle it? Either excuse isn't acceptable. I'm switching to another carrier when my contract is up in january. Maybe to some android phone or to the palm pre. The iPhone just isn't enough to put up with AT&T anymore. I expect after this, Apple won't extend the exclusivity anymore.
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by ewsachse June 19, 2009 11:56 AM PDT
Yeah right. They are going to drop their exclusive deal just for you. 8)
by SteveW928 June 20, 2009 12:11 AM PDT
@ ewsachse -

It's not just for pjhenry1216. most people I've talked to with an iPhone or who are considering getting one feel this way. AT&T pretty much sucks.... however, I think it is kind of a 'greener grass' situation, as the overall state of cellular companies is pretty crumby. If they go elsewhere, there would be some other issue to complain about. The big problem for me is the cost of the plans... and that seems to be fairly universal.
by OS11 June 20, 2009 10:49 AM PDT
it's because the iPhone is extremely easy to use and very popular. now around 54% of all cell data traffic is from the iPhone... wow, when you think about it... ATT was just not prepared for such a high quality device, neither is Verizon since they still don't offer a high quality smartphone.

Tethering and MMS will be here by the end of the summer, ATT is spending billions to try and keep the iPhone contract.
by lazycat202 June 20, 2009 6:15 PM PDT
OS11:
ATT forces users to purchase data plan. do u have an option to say NO? waste of $$
by earthvoyager June 19, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
>minimum will cost them $1,680 over the life of their service contracts.
This is way exaggerating the cost. Even without iPhone, the wireless bill for the poor Osei is $960 for 2 years.
I have a family plan. It cost for about $70/month for 700 family minutes, AT&T or Verizon. It is $1680 for 2 years without any phone or phone upgrade.

The iPhone extra cost is $30/month x 24 = $720 for 2 years, regardless what your plan is. Add a $199 if you choose a iPhone 3G S, it is $920. Let's get to the fact, not keep exaggerating thing, could you!

By the way, if you choose a BlackBerry/Palm Pre, you need to pay the same extra $720 for 2 years.



I really wish all the tech writers can learn to get to the truth, not exaggerate the cost.
For my family, a basic 700 minutes wireless plan, AT&T or Verizon, will cost 70/month. This is without any phone upgrade or even a new phone. It added up to $1680.

The extra cost for iphone
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by Sgr76 June 19, 2009 11:34 AM PDT
The Calculations are accurate. The writer is not saying that it will cost you $1680 more to own the iphone. The lowest talk plan you can get with ATT is $39.99 and the unlimited data plan (which you have to get with the iphone) is $30 for a total of 69.99 and that doesn't include taxes or text messaging. 70*24 = 1680.

Sure you can get another phone with ATT and just pay for a voice plan which is $960 over 24 months. I guess the real question is: Is it worth $720 and being stuck with ATT for 2 years to have the iphone and the answer is NO.

These days it's all about saving money and unless you are filthy rich, it's difficult to justify having a phone that is likely to cost you 80-90 a month (on average). That person who walked into that store to get a Nokia had the right idea and they will be better off. I am about 2 weeks away from honoring my 24 month commitment to ATT (which started with the original iphone) and i couldn't be happier.
by jchidori June 19, 2009 12:32 PM PDT
By the way, if you choose a BlackBerry/Palm Pre, you need to pay the same extra $720 for 2 years.

Well if you get a blackberry on att it's your choice if you want the data package or not. with the iphone there is no choice, you must have it to buy the phone at the 199 price.
by SteveW928 June 20, 2009 12:15 AM PDT
@ jchidori -

Yea, they are just subsidizing the cost of the phone. I'm guessing if you buy the phone out-right, you could opt not to get the data part of the plan.
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